London Samaritan Attackers: Reader Commnts

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Interesting, the basis of your comment: this was nothing to do with need, more to do with greed. These people were looting, not taking essentials in order to live. There is also a culture which sees the welfare state as a way of life, rather than a safety net, and any attempt to rationalise it touches sensitive skin for those taking advantage and their bleeding-heart liberal advocates. Can it be right for someone to claim housing benefit in excess of the average wage? He must be living in the wrong place; if I tried it, I would be told just that and advised to move into an area and a type of accommodation more in line with my means. More recently we have heard of left-wing, yes left-wing local authorities trying to move out tenants — so as to let their accommodation at premium rates over the period of the Olympic games. There has long been a perception, particularly among the young and still developing, that public property is fair game. I can remember having similar views, as a boy, and it had to be pointed out to me that in terms of theft or damage public property is no different from personal property. When, as did many a schoolboy, I removed a sign saying ‘6 seats’ from a railway carriage I was rewarded with four strokes of the cane on my own seat; it was a valuable lesson and I was well served by the school where it was done. This attitude regarding public property tends to extend to large commercial organisations and chain stores, with which in this case youngsters seemed couple any tradesman. Without wishing to be a bore, such attitudes used to be driven out of us by parental example and discipline (however exerted); that was reinforced then by society, neighbours, schools and the formal structure of the state. Believe me, if you have been punished for what would now be regarded as trivial matters, you think twice and more before indulging in looting, criminal damage and manslaughter. The problem is that in the latter part of the 20th century over-protective parents resented schools or the state exerting discipline and imposing sanctions. Some wanted that control exerted over other people’s children but not, of course, their own! Corporal punishment came to be more of a threat than a regular occurrence but its ultimate possibility did still concentrate the minds of even the most self-assured youth. Once it went, there were no bounds at all. Ironically the parents of those decades found their own authority weakened as a result, not strengthened, with their methods (whether mild or downright violent) coming under the scrutiny of social workers and the police. Alongside this, as consumer spending made heavier demands on income in good times and austere, the latch-key child and the parents generally preoccupied made easy options in domestic matters more the rule. Children may say they want to be left to their own devices but that is not necessarily in their best long-term interest. In the old days, the austere part of the economic cycle meant people tightening their belts. Now it means their demanding finance, investment, public spending etc as if money grew on trees. Nowadays people who believe they have a grievance regard looting as a legitimate form of protest. They are easily led and have very little self-restraint or indeed sense of self-preservation. When the full force of the law is imposed upon them, there is an outcry. We used to talk about a return to old-fashioned values but I fear that that would only come with a totalitarian régime, hardly a choice I would like to have to make. The countries of the far east have maintained standards and traditional remedies, not only when dealing with the young. I suspect that the more liberal amongst them are finding it increasingly difficult to hold the line. Mass communication makes living in a cocoon all the more difficult, so you probably have to blame television and the internet! Where and when did the rot set in? I suspect we have to look to the consequences of both expanding education and a reaction to the excesses of the fortunate a century and more ago; and then, subsequently, the disruptive effects of the two world wars upon society. Now which one of us wants to withdraw education, so that the working people are little better than the livestock they manage? Who will now defend the upstairs/downstairs way of life? So that is my take on it. Quite glad I don’t have to make the decisions!







HBC






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